Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Photographs by Gleamlight

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Files in Category:Photographs by Gleamlight[edit]

As per Commons:Deletion requests/File:Craig Mundie.jpg. Philippe Molitor/Gleamlight is a professional events photographer who holds copyright over all of his imagery, but obviously allow the client to use for promotional purposes. This does not allow the client to freely licence them. A range of clients are represented in this DR. Please delete the Gleamlight category after deletion of the images as they will no longer be required.

106.68.123.120 13:23, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

  • Symbol keep vote.svg Keep At the moment I see evidence that organizations such as Friends of Europe want to release photos with free licenses (e.g. File:Mario Monti, Bocconi.jpg which is marked as CC-BY on Flickr) and no evidence that (1) the contract with the photographer did not allow them do to so and that (2) the photographer does not want them to be free licensed. Also, if (1) and (2) are the case I believe that the photographer should first clarify the situation with the clients and have the licensed changed on Flickr: then a DR would have sense. We are not talking of license laundering here. --Jaqen (talk) 15:48, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
It would be helpful to get documentation of these "discussions" mentioned at Commons:Deletion requests/File:Craig Mundie.jpg, but Russavia (talk | contribs) is banned, blocked, and locked.   — Jeff G. ツ 18:59, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment Jaqen several of these images are found in the Flickr stream of SDA, and it was those photos which caused me to contact Philippe way back when. Unfortunately Jeff G. I don't have the correspondence any longer, but I see I JethroBT said he would contact Philippe. Philippe may change his mind now, but he was absolutely adamant about keeping the watermarks on the images due to this being the way he tracks their usage. FYI Jaqen, Friends of Europe is a think-tank, much like SDA, and are likely not knowledgable about licensing. It is likely that Philippe did the photos for these groups for their use for publicity purposes whilst he still holds copyright....this is how most event photographers such as Philippe work. Good luck y'all. 79.185.28.168 18:32, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The photographer can be contacted on photography@gleamlight.com so interested parties are more than able to contact Philippe for his comment. I am certain it will be EXACTLY the same thing he told me way back when! He does not agree to have his photos licenced under CC 106.68.123.120 23:32, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
Pictogram voting comment.svg Comment The anonymous editor was recently globally blocked. In any case, I'll write an e-mail to Philippe asking him to e-mail permissions-commons@wikimedia.org to see if we can settle this matter. I JethroBT (talk) 09:36, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
Oops, it seems I brought Russavia back as 106.68.123.120. Sorry.   — Jeff G. ツ 05:26, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
OK, I've e-mailed Philippe, so I'll touch base back here once I get a response. I just hope we're not wasting a bunch of time. I JethroBT (talk) 05:30, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
  • per COM:PCP these images have to be deleted unless the copyright holder - the only person able to release them under a free license - actually releases them under a free license. Otherwise these images have to be considered as copyright violations, the publishing organization does not have rights to offer them under a free license. --Denniss (talk) 11:00, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
    • Not quite. If the individual created the content through a commission they do not necessarily hold copyright. They are paid to create this content We have an official Flickr photostream that is freely licensed. We have no reason to doubt this. -- とある白い猫 ちぃ? 20:38, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Kept: Banned user. Yann (talk) 20:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Nope, deleted per PCP. DR started by banned user is irrelevant as licensing issues/PCP are rated far higher.--Denniss (talk) 22:29, 10 January 2016 (UTC)